McGovern/Magauran Family Co. Cavan “Red Oineys”

McGovern/Magauran Family Co. Cavan “Red Oineys”

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Posted Mon 27 Jul 2020 3:56 PM
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On the 23 rd of August 1897 Owen Mc Govern married an Anne Smith  in Corlough and the witnesses were Anne Mc Manus and a Dennis Prior so this cold be a son of Owen and Anne
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Posted Mon 27 Jul 2020 4:50 PM
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Hi Mike!

All of those names sound familiar, although not connected to my tree just yet. I do have a Bridget Macgoveran, although I’m not a direct descendant from her. I think she may be an in law (I have to look when I get home). I do have a few Prior (Pryor?) in my tree. You may want to check out a book called You CAN go home again by Jim McGowan (That’s his pen name - his real name is Jim McGovern). I bought it off of amazon. It has some interesting facts on the Red Oineys and tells of his trek back to county Cavan in the early 2000s. He mentions the Cavan center for Genealogy and stated that they have a ton of info on the McGoverns of Cavan. I just started reading it myself, but he is the one person in our family who knows almost everything there is to know about the McGoverns.
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Posted Mon 27 Jul 2020 7:53 PM
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Hi Danielle, came across an Anne Mc Manus married to a Patrick Prior from Templeport, she was from Coraclassy and the date was 1857. Even Anne Mc Manus was popular,  I think I came across two dozen. IRISH GENEALOGY. IE is a great site and it's free. ROOTS IRELAND  WOULD COST YOU 31 POUND A MONTH.
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Posted Tue 28 Jul 2020 12:04 AM
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Oh I know. I thought I found Anne’s family on the Ireland Census, the year and age matched, but it was a different Parish from where she was married, so I put it aside. And with no real information on her birth (I’m just going off of an old family tree from the 60’s or 70’s), other than the year, it makes it hard to distinguish between each Anne McManus. Thanks for all this info though! It’s helpful!
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Posted Tue 28 Jul 2020 9:16 AM
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It seems like quite the journey of discovery for both of you, Danielle and Mike!

The Irish Genealogy site is the main General Register Office of Ireland pages where after 1864 when civil registration was introduced in Ireland, we started seeing the formal registration of births, marriages, adoptions and deaths. A wonderful resource, even though you may find more Anne McManus's!

We hope that both of you continue with your research, please keep us up to date with your journey, we are all making it with you. :)



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Posted Sun 24 Oct 2021 5:47 PM
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Hi there. I’m also a McGovern/Magauran, and I have some information that may help you, with the caveat that, as many others have said, the similarity and commonality of the names is such an issue.

My 2xGGF was Philip McGovern, born in County Cavan in 1819. He and his wife Susan, born in 1823, had seven children in Cavan between 1845 and 1861. They emigrated to the U.S., probably around 1863-ish, and they all ended up in Nashville, Tennessee, USA, all buried in Calvary cemetery there. I’ve known that for awhile, but recently I’ve done a deep dive to try to find their marriage and baptism records, and learn exactly where they came from. I should tell you that I live in Memphis, Tennessee, USA. Researching Irish records is hard for me. Fun, but hard.

I’m pretty sure I found their marriage: Philip McGovern from Glangevlin married Susan Magauran of Kinally in February 1845. That means they are up in that northwest portion of Cavan, with Susan’s family right on the border with Fermanagh. Despite that, I haven’t found any baptisms for any children. Frustrating! Some possibilities, but no conclusions. The boundary issues that others have mentioned are probably at play here. Need more research, including the adjacent counties. However, there are plenty of other references to Philip McGovern across Cavan in the different resources available. While I’m pretty sure my people were in that northwest corner (as far as Tents), I’m not sure about the other McGovern families as you head east. I don’t know the materials well enough yet to draw any conclusions. But the names that predominate in my family can be found in other places across Cavan: Philip, Patrick, Hugh, and the ubiquitous Owen, or Oney. Susan repeats in my family but is not common, and so it is kind of a weak marker for my people.

I can also say this. I am certain there were multiple families from the northwestern part of County Cavan, including but not limited to McGoverns (Fagan is another) who emigrated to Pennsylvania (Philadelphia at first) over a 10-15 year period beginning either during the hunger or shortly after. Many, many McGoverns in eastern PA by 1860, including some of mine. And some of those went on to Nashville. Then Philip came about 1863. But there were many others from this northwest part of Cavan. And it’s clear what the driving factor was: the United States railroad industry was powering their success. They were plenty of hard labor jobs, but I see that many of these McGoverns got good jobs: switchmen, engineers, bridge builders, for long careers.

Well, I tried to be brief, but not so much. Anyway, if you’d like to discuss sometime, email me at kwalshkern@comcast.net. We can swap phone numbers. You should check out the Ireland XO site. I’m going to post Philip McGoverns bio there soon. BTW, I know I saw several McManus names while searching for my baptisms. If we can pinpoint yours in that northwest part of Cavan, then, hello cousin! (There is also a Cavan DNA website. I have DNA raw data, but I find it really difficult and time consuming.)

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Posted Sun 24 Oct 2021 10:48 PM
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P.S.  I looked at the Catholic Parish Registers for Kinnally on January 31 and found the marriage record: Owen Magauran and Ann McManus, witnessed by Hugh and John Magauran.  You may already have it, but I will upload it.
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Hi Kevin,

Thank you for joining the thread, and sharing all your hard work! I hope your research can shed more light on the journey of ancestral discovery for Danielle and Mike, as well as your own. I keep my fingers crossed you will make more exciting discoveries about your connections with the Emerald Isle.

Please do keep us updated!

Kind regards,

Vera
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Hi Danielle,I’m a “Red Oiney McGovern”. My Father and all the Red Oineys where born in Derryvella. If you’d like to email me directly I can forward you photos of the original thatched cottage in Derryvella. The last of the family left the house in 1962 and the house was knocked around 1975. Some of the farm buildings are still standing. My email is [Removed as per privacy rules]  I hope to hear from you!
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Hi Danielle,

My great-grandaunt, Maggie McGovern married Francis Red Oiney in Philadelphia around the year 1900. 

Frankie



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