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HELLO! I'm interested in a genealogy group concerned with Derry

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I've chased my family back to here in 1666 with Joseph Rogers, son of John Rogers B:1729 so am interested in finding more about His family etc. any leads will be appreciated!
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Posted Tue 4 Jun 2019 4:07 PM
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Hi Michael,

How lovely that you've found your way to our community. We have a lot of people who are finding their roots in Ireland run very deep!

Where did your branch of our Irish family spread out to?

It's great that you managed to find so many generations back, what information do you have on John and Joseph already?

This earlier thread on a family from Derry~Londonderry may have some useful links for you and you will find information on some essential contacts on another related thread as well.

There are some wonderfully helpful people on this forum as well, so hopefully you will get some responses from the Derrry~Londonderry crowd as well, who knows, you might even run into some relatives! ;)

Best regards,
Cornelia

Posted Wed 5 Jun 2019 2:48 PM
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Hello Michael
I have self catering cottages located 20 minutes from Derry/Londonderry. I have helped previous customers research their ancestry. The main source of information close to us is at Ulster Scots Monreagh Heritage Centre at The Manse, Monreagh, Carrigans, Donegal www.monreaghulsterscotscentre.com  T: +353 749140708.

The staff are extremely helpful and I can also point you in the direct of other sources of information depending on how much information you already have. You might like to stay at Finn Valley Cottages if you visit Ireland to do further research into your ancestry. I  look forward to hearing from you. 
Kind Regards, Anne Speers
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Hi Michael

The most comprehensive family history database for Derry/Londonderry was built up by Derry Genealogy which can be accessed at http://www.derry.rootsireland.ie . This database contains the bulk of pre-1922 civil birth and marriage registers for the city and county of Derry, the early baptismal and marriage registers of 85 churches, gravestone inscriptions from 117 graveyards, and census substitutes and census returns dating from 1628 to 1921.

Although RootsIreland is the largest online source of Irish church register transcripts, it must be emphasised that a failure to find any relevant birth/marriage entries in this database (or indeed any of the 'big' Irish databases) doesn't mean that the events you are looking for didn't happen in Ireland. It simply means that they are not recorded in the database; for example, they may be recorded in a record source which doesn't survive for the time period of interest or in a source that has not been computerised.

Your problem, of course, is that it is very difficult to trace ancestors in Ireland in 17th and 18th centuries owing to patchy survival of record sources for this time period. The majority of Irish church registers don’t survive for 18th century. Although Derry Genealogy has computerised the baptismal, marriage and burial registers of 85 churches in County Derry (the earliest being St Columb’s Cathedral in Derry city, dating from 1642),only 8 of them have surviving registers prior to 1800. Hence the birth,marriage and death details of many of our 17th and 18th century ancestors have not survived in a written record source.  

Quite often the only realistic strategy in tracing ancestors beyond church registers (which are the building blocks of family history) is to examine surviving land records and census substitutes, often compiled by civil parish, for any references to a surname or given name of interest. There are a number of 17th and 18th century census substitutes (e.g. 1630 Muster Roll, 1663 Hearth Money Rolls, 1740 Protestant Householders Lists, 1766 Religious Census and 1796 Flax Growers Lists) which can be searched to confirm the presence of the family name. The problem with these sources is that they name heads of household only; hence they provide insufficient information to confirm the nature of linkages between named people in these sources. Census substitutes, however, are very useful in confirming the presence of a family name in a particular townland and/or parish, and in providing some insight into the frequency and distribution of surnames.  

Many of these 17th and 18th century census substitutes for County Derry can be searched, free of charge on Bill Macafee's website at http://www.billmacafee.com . These sources will confirm the presence of Rogers households but they will not confirm if and how they are connected to your Rogers ancestors.

For example an examination of the index to the Hearth Money Rolls of 1663 for County Derry, on Bill Macafees website, reveals 8 households with surname Roger/Rodger/Rodgers living in County Derry in the mid-17th century; namely:

Name                              Parish                               Townland or Street,Town
James Rodger                Aghadowey                       Gorran
James Rodgers              Templemore                      ShipquayStreet, Londonderry
John Rodger                   Macosquin                        Not specified
Nathaniel Rodger            Magherafelt                      Killyfaddy
Robert Roger                  Magilligan                         Drummans Upper
Thomas Rodger              Aghadowey                      Gorran
William Roger                 Tamlaght Finlagan            Carrowclare
William Rodgers             Templemore                      Shipquay Street, Londonderry 



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Hello Michael,

Thank you for your correspondance. Our local genealogist is Brian Mitchell who has a wealth of knowledge! He has published a guide for people tracing their ancestors,  Tracing your Ancestors : A Three-Step Guide. For further information please see the following link: https://www.derrystrabane.com/Subsites/Museums-and-Heritage/Archive-Genealogy
Also another good website to check out is www.irishroots.com.

Wishing you all the best in your research from everyone at VisitDerry!


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